Well with all this talk of starting WFB I could not stop myself making a sample list. I do realize the rules will change with 8th and probable wont be aloud that many points in my lords and heroes.
Now bear in mind I have never played a game of WFB so not 100% on all the rules. Some things look good on paper but in reality dont work in game.
So please rip this list apart but be nice while doing it
The theme is Skryre which I would like to keep to but I don't mind adding things from other clans.
Do you think its worth giving clanrats spears ?
I kept the slaves naked as I know they are doing to die without doing anything.
I decided on the doom-flayer due to the flank bonus it could give and conversions I could make.
The war-litter was added just so I could make one.
Is 2 doom-wheels cheese ? (its just a already have a old one and would like a new one as well in my army)
I feel I need more clan rats and more warpfire throwers
Skaven 2000 pt list
Lord
Warlord,enchanted Shield,warlitter,foul pendant,weeping blade 198
Heroes
Engineer-level 2, Shadow pendant, Warp energy condenser-150
Engineer-Level 2,Warp-energy condenser,dispel scroll-145
Engineer,2xdispel scroll-65
Core
30 Clanrats,spears,shields,full command,Doomflayer-225
30 Clanrats,spears,shields,full command,Doom flayer-225
30 Clanrats,spears,shields,full command,warpfire thrower-245
21 slaves-42
21 slaves-42
21 slaves-42
Special
5xWarplock Jezzails-100
5xWarplock Jezzails-100
Rare
Doom Wheel-150
Doom Wheel-150
1979- 21 points spare
Muchos painting for you!
I don't know enough about Skaven lists to criticise it to be honest, but I know a decent amount of jezzails is always a winning tactic.
Sound pretty good. Couple of points I can think of
- Double check that non level 1 & 2 engineers can still carry scrolls, since I have a feeling they cant.
- Maybe stick a doom rocket on the non magical engineer, it is fun to convert and meant to be fun to play.
- Spears are good, and apparently in the new rules you get 3 ranks with them.
- You might need something a bit more heavy hitting to take out any tough units. the jezzials and doomwheels are ok, but not reliable. Having something like some rat ogres, poison wind globidiers or plague censer bearers might be just up your street.
I love it despite the above. really characterful and themey, and lots of fun to be had.
The doom rocket was in my list at first just because I thought it would be awesome to convert. Was thinking of a nice large shoulder mounted rocket.
I think you are right, I cant take scrolls on a non wizard. Will give him doomrocket as with the new rumoured 8th magic rules scrolls wont be so must have.
The Jezzials I got as I thought they would be good against heavy cav or any lone hero and I thought two units would be better than one large one. Due to if one unit kills it I can shoot at something else.
I would love to add some plague monks and rat ogres but cant find the points unless I get rid of the jezzials and the doomwheels.
I took the scrolls off as it was illegal and removed spears from one clanrat unit and got 5 Globadiers who will hide behind a unit before poping out to use there globes.
Skaven 2000 pt list
Lord
Warlord,enchanted Shield,warlitter,foul pendant,weeping blade 198
Heroes
Engineer-level 2, Shadow pendant, Warp energy condenser-150
Engineer-Level 2,Warp-energy condenser,dispel scroll-145
Engineer,Doom rocket,warplock pistol-53
Core
30 Clanrats,spears,shields,full command,Doomflayer-225
30 Clanrats,spears,shields,full command,Doom flayer-225
30 Clanrats,shields,full command,warpfire thrower-230
21 slaves-42
21 slaves-42
21 slaves-42
Special
5xWarplock Jezzails-100
5xWarplock Jezzails-100
5x Poisoned Wind Globadiers-50
Rare
Doom Wheel-150
Doom Wheel-150
1998
Edit: anybody got any idea on what to use as slaves, I know you could use the unarmoured clanrat models in the box set but that is costly. I was thinking of using gobbos and then having a unit filler in the middle with skaven whipping them or even eating them.
Do you guys mind people using unit fillers ?
If it is characterful and fun then I LOVE unit fillers. It just adds so much back story and character to the game, and is really entertaining. Try not to overdo it. I would think 4 bases for whipping, max 6 for eating.
It is something that could be easy to over do. There was quite a few bits of fluff in the army book about skaven using gobbos for slaves although they dont last as long as skaven slaves but the skaven dont mind
I was thinking it would look like this:
xxxxx
xyyyx
xyyyx
xxxxx
x
x= gobbo slave
Y: Skaven overseers
I know the extra 1 slave at the back makes it look a bit untidy but I was told to do that to help with panic tests. I going to model him as if he is trying to escape.
I editted my list to stick to my original theme did not like the plaguemonks being there.
Lord
Warlord,enchanted Shield,warlitter,foul pendant,weeping blade 198
Heroes
Engineer-level 2, Shadow pendant, Warp energy condenser-150
Engineer-Level 2,powerstone,dispel scroll-145
Engineer,Doom rocket,warplock pistol-53
Core
25 Clanrats,shields,full command,Doomflayer-190
25 Clanrats,shields,full command,Doom flayer-190
25 Clanrats,shields,Banner, Musician, warp-fire thrower-187
20 slaves-40
20 slaves-40
20 slaves-40
Special
5xWarplock Jezzails-100
5xWarplock Jezzails-100
5x Poisoned Wind Globadiers-50
5x Poisoned Wind Globadiers, bombardier,death globe-80
Rare
Doom Wheel-150
Doom Wheel-150
1998.5 points
Well I just added up this list and it seems I added it wrong and got some points values wrong. So here is my new list. I had 137 points spare but did not really want to add another clanrat regiment due to painting and not quite enough to add the Rat ogres I wanted ( can never found space for them).
So just changed some upgrades around.
Lord
Warlord,enchanted Shield,warlitter,foul pendant,weeping blade 195
Heroes
Engineer-level 2, Shadow pendant, Warp energy condenser-150
Engineer-Level 2,powerstone,dispel scroll-145
Engineer-Level 1,Doom rocket, -96
Core
25 Clanrats,shields,full command,Doomflayer-187.5
25 Clanrats,shields,full command,Rattling gun-187.5
25 Clanrats,shields,Banner, Musician, Poisoned Wind Mortar-189.5
20 slaves-40
20 slaves-40
20 slaves-40
15xGiant Rats, 2 Pack Masters-61
Special
5xWarplock Jezzails-100
5xWarplock Jezzails-100
5x Poisoned Wind Globadiers, bombardier,death globe-80
5x Poisoned Wind Globadiers, bombardier,death globe-80
Rare
Doom Wheel-150
Doom Wheel-150
1998.5 points
I like this list a lot. Characterful, nicely unpredictable with the twin Doomwheels (provided that you can take two with the new book) and it should make a nice contrast to some of the other Skaven lists in the club.
From my understanding, you may want to take more giant rats as they're supposed to be very good in the new book. Maybe give up some slaves for some rats instead?
Oh, I have a couple of spare rockets from the Hellstrom rocket battery that might make very nice doom rockets if you're interested?
Thanks I tried to make it a bit unique seeing how in the last week we have had another 3 players join up with skaven.
If the rumours are true about not having two rares the same, I will drop one doomwheel for a warp lighting cannon.
If I also cant take that many heroes I will drop my lvl 1 and with those points and the points from dropping a doomwheel will get more giant rats.